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CBS Sunday Morning (9:00 AM ET) -
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May 23, 2004 Sunday

May 23, 2004
ANCHOR: CHARLES OSGOOD
REPORTER: ERIN MORIARTY
BLURRING THE LINES
CHARLES OSGOOD, host:
The social barriers that divide us are almost always artificial
and arbitrary. It's no wonder Blurring the Lines can be so tempting.
But in the effort to fit in with others, do you risk a falling-out with
your own true self? Our cover story is reported by Erin Moriarty of "48
Hours."
(Footage of senior citizens exercising; Lavinia, Patricia,
Mikaela)
ERIN MORIARTY reporting:
(Voiceover) Before you make any assumptions based on skin
color, these three women--Lavinia Ferguson, her daughter Patricia and
granddaughter Mikaela--are are living reminders of just how gray matters
of black and white can be.
So what does your birth certificate say?
Ms. LAVINIA FERGUSON: White.
MORIARTY: (Voiceover) Lavinia's birth certificate says 'white,'
but her daughter Patricia's lists 'Negro.'
(Footage of birth certificate; Lavinia, Patricia, Mikaela;
vintage family photographs)
MORIARTY: And what does Mikaela's birth certificate say?
Ms. FERGUSON: Oh, Swedish.
Ms. MIKAELA OLSSON-FERGUSON (Lavinia's Granddaughter): I
usually say my dad's 100 percent Swedish, and my mom's everything.
MORIARTY: (Voiceover) They are, like many Americans today,
products of families that can best be described as colorful.
Ms. FERGUSON: This is a wedding album.
MORIARTY: (Voiceover) Lavinia traces her family back to 1830,
when her German, and Caucasian, great-grandfather, James Connor Bowman,
moved to New Orleans, where he fell in love with and married a black woman.
Ms. FERGUSON: If they put anything in front of me today,
all I worry about is what box I don't check. Caucasian: Yes.
Indian: Yes. Black: Yes. Hispanic: Yes.
MORIARTY: (Voiceover) Yet Lavinia remembers a time when one
box, and how it was filled out, determined everything--your livelihood,
neighborhood, the quality of your life.
Ms. FERGUSON: My mother got an excellent job at the time
with the telephone company. She had a beautiful speaking voice.
They came in one day and they said, 'Eunice, we've gotten some kind of--of
information here that says you have colored blood. Is this true?'
And she said yes. And they said, 'Well, you know, in that case, we have
to let you go.'
MORIARTY: Until the 1950s and '60s, Jim Crow laws denied
blacks the same jobs, education opportunities and rights that whites took
for granted. But the fair skin that Lavinia's family and others had allowed
them to surreptitiously cross the color borders, a process known as
passing.
Ms. FERGUSON: It was a way of life.
MORIARTY: Passing was.
Ms. FERGUSON: Yes. It was a way of life.
(Vintage family photographs)
MORIARTY: (Voiceover) But not an easy way. One of Lavinia's
relatives, a doctor, passed as white until he tried to enlist in the Navy
during World War II.
(Excerpts from "Lost Boundaries")
MORIARTY: (Voiceover) His story was made into the 1950s movie
"Lost Boundaries."
Professor BROOKE KROEGER (New York University): There is
always a price for passing, and that's why it's so interesting.
That's why it compels us, because people do pay a price. The question
is, is it worth it?
(Footage of Brooke Kroeger and Moriarty; Kroeger's book)
MORIARTY: (Voiceover) New York University Professor Brooke
Kroeger says that passing is not a thing of the past, nor
does it only involve skin color.
Prof. KROEGER: We had Jewish passing for gentile
in much the same way, and passing, certainly, gay for straight
is a common one, and has been for a long time. Lower class for upper
class; I think that's something we see a lot.
MORIARTY: (Voiceover) Kroeger has written a book about the
double lives people who pass are often forced to lead.
Prof. KROEGER: This is not done to harm people. This
is done really to achieve ordinary ends. It's really people who
just want to do what you and I get to do.
(Footage of David Matthews)
MORIARTY: (Voiceover) People like 37-year-old screenwriter
David Matthews.
Do you remember how old you were when you first said, 'I'm
white,' knowing that your father considered himself black?
Mr. DAVID MATTHEWS (Screenwriter): Right. Elementary--elementary
school.
MORIARTY: Like how old?
Mr. D. MATTHEWS: Seven; seven, eight.
(Photographs of Matthews as a child)
MORIARTY: (Voiceover) David Matthews grew up in the 1980s'
Baltimore, Maryland, where he says white students seemed to lead a charmed
life.
Mr. D. MATTHEWS: The group of white kids, who were probably
about a 20 percent, 30 percent population in the school, but I just noticed
that they got more attention. Teachers assumed that they somehow
had more on the ball.
MORIARTY: (Voiceover) David, the son of a light-skinned black
man and an Israeli mother, walked every day to a school in a primarily
white neighborhood.
Mr. D. MATTHEWS: Walking those three blocks, I knew all I
needed to know about where I wanted to be as I watched the property la--values,
as I watched the yards actually become yards, and the Volvos as opposed
to burned-out, you know, Cadillacs.
MORIARTY: (Voiceover) So David simply chose to be white.
When you look back now, were you passing?
Mr. D. MATTHEWS: Oh, absolutely.
MORIARTY: Did anyone actually ask you?
Mr. D. MATTHEWS: As I got older--well, again, because Baltimore
is ve--there's one or the other, so I would get, as I started to enter
high school, especially when you started dating and adding that--sort
of sex to the mix of girls and their fathers. And they--they really
wanted to know. So every girl I ever dated, the parents' first question
was, 'What nationality are you?'
MORIARTY: And what would you say?
Mr. D. MATTHEWS: I would say that I was--I was--I would say
'My mom's Israeli.'
MORIARTY: And you wouldn't mention your father.
Mr. D. MATTHEWS: Wouldn't mention--and I think they just
assumed that--and they would say, 'Well, what's your dad?' I'd say, 'Oh,
he's Presbyterian.'
MORIARTY: When people would ask you what your dad did, what
would you say?
Mr. D. MATTHEWS: I would say he was a journalist.
(Footage of newspaper column)
MORIARTY: (Voiceover) David, whose father was a newspaper
editor, would just avoid mentioning which newspaper.
Mr. D. MATTHEWS: Because he was the editor of The AFRO-American
newspaper.
MORIARTY: And that might have given something away.
Mr. D. MATTHEWS: Yeah, that wou--yeah. So--yeah.
(Footage of Matthews)
MORIARTY: (Voiceover) And passing as white meant
that David, raised entirely by his father after his mother left to return
to Israel, couldn't bring most of his friends home.
But that must have been tough.
Mr. D. MATTHEWS: A little bit, but I think that at that point,
I was in such denial, like I didn't know what a--what a treasure I had
in my dad. I mean, my dad was like a star, and I didn't know it until
I was an adult.
(Footage of Ralph Matthews)
Mr. RALPH MATTHEWS (David's Father): This is my mother, and
David, age six.
MORIARTY: (Voiceover) Now meet David's father, Ralph Matthews.
You're very fair-skinned. Did you ever, in order to
get a job or anything like that, pass as white?
Mr. R. MATTHEWS: No. No. I would be highly insulted
if anyone even suggested that to me.
MORIARTY: Then how did you feel about your son choosing to
be white?
Mr. R. MATTHEWS: I was bemused.
MORIARTY: Bemused?
Mr. R. MATTHEWS: Right.
MORIARTY: Weren't you a little angry about it, that your
son didn't realize...
Mr. R. MATTHEWS: He knew. I call it doing what you
have to do.
MORIARTY: (Voiceover) David says it was not until college
that he finally realized what a rich heritage he was giving up.
David says now that he regrets that he didn't see what a
treasure he had in you when he was growing up.
Mr. R. MATTHEWS: Well, that's nice. That's nice. I
always think he knew.
MORIARTY: You know, there would be some people in the black
community today saying that this was almost a cultural betrayal.
Mr. D. MATTHEWS: Oh, absolutely.
MORIARTY: Was it?
(Footage of magazine article)
Mr. D. MATTHEWS: (Voiceover) Cultural betrayal. Maybe.
I see it as being efficacious. I--I did what I had to do in order
to--to get along every day.
(Footage of Joel Alter and Moriarty)
MORIARTY: (Voiceover) Passing does pose a moral
dilemma, says Rabbi Joel Alter.
Rabbi JOEL ALTER: If you ask me is lying, is self-serving
deceit, problematic, yes, absolutely.
(Photograph of Alter.
MORIARTY: (Voiceover) But he is hardly in the position to
pass judgment.
Rabbi ALTER: There's no question that I was passing
at the seminary, that I'm a gay rabbinical student, and I'm at a seminary
that won't knowing--that won't knowingly ordain gay or lesbian rabbinical
or cantorial students, so yeah, I'm passing.
(Footage of seminary)
MORIARTY: (Voiceover) The Conservative rabbinical seminary,
like the military, had an unofficial 'don't ask, don't tell' policy.
Alter knew that telling would end his dream of becoming a rabbi.
Here you are, learning to be a man of God, knowing that,
in a way, you're deceiving that institution.
Rabbi ALTER: Was I uncomfortable with that? Sure.
Every single day for five years, I'm thinking, 'OK, done, got--leave the
program. This is--this is crazy.'
(Photograph and footage of Alter)
MORIARTY: (Voiceover) He stayed, and today he is an ordained
rabbi, and openly gay. While he still regrets the deception, Joel
Alter believes it is the only way to force open closed doors.
So at this point in time, the Conservative movement still
does not ordain gay men and women?
Rabbi ALTER: Correct.
MORIARTY: But, in fact, it has.
Rabbi ALTER: Right. You know, they--I--there...
MORIARTY: Because of passing ...
Rabbi ALTER: Yeah. There's a--the...
MORIARTY: ...you're probably not the only gay rabbi.
Rabbi ALTER: Well, right. Now it's not the--far from
it.
Prof. KROEGER: People in my book are really honorable, nice,
regular folks, and yet it forces them into situations that require deception,
that require covering, that require hiding parts of themselves that are
central to who they are.
(Footage of people walking)
MORIARTY: (Voiceover) And it is a deception, says Professor
Kroeger, that will remain with us as long as there are people in this
society who feel that liberty and justice are not for all.
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