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Untextbooked Podcast, interviewed by Jordan Pettiford, aired October 26, 2023

October 26, 2023


Meet Jordan Pettiford, now a Columbia University junior, a reporter and editor on the staff of the student newspaper, The Spectator, and a contributor to Untextbooked. Starting with Ida B. Wells, her own journalism-hero-inspiration (then mine, Nellie Bly), Pettiford synthesizes the 180-year history of women in the field, striking Undaunted‘s every major chord in less than 30 minutes. I’m happily just the foil. Transcript PDF also below.


Show Notes: (00:00) – Introduction  (1:08) – Who is Ida B. Wells?  (2:08) – Journalist Nellie Bly and the Insane Asylum  (6:04) – Women Journalists & ‘Stunt Work’  (8:03) – Ida B. Wells’ Entry Into Journalism  (10:05) – Ida B. Wells & Lynching Investigations  (11:24) – ‘Sob Sisters’ and ‘Front Page Girls’ of the 1920s  (12:48) – Women as War Correspondents  (14:43) – Impact of The Civil Rights Act of 1964  (18:18) – Scrutiny Women Face in Broadcast Journalism  (20:46) – Female Executive Editors at Top News Organizations  (23:13) – Brooke Kroeger’s Advice for Young Journalists  (26:27) – Reflections

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The transcript:


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The production team: Jordan is pictured here as we recorded on September 5 with the producers from PodPeople, Hannah Pedersen and Danielle Roth.